Teen Gothic

I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and what you think about what crosses the line in the goth scene, and who should speak out what is wrong.

I was in a 30+ goth group and a women with 48 years young posted an underwear photo (she had tattoos one was HIM non said goth, and had large fake boobs clearly seeking complements. it was her in a very tiny bikini style top and panties and men just told her how hot she was. I said that I felt that we as the goth 30+ age comunity shouldn't be posting these on a goth page as she is promoting goth as a fetish and she shouldn't be posting lingerie shots in her post. She then yells at me how I "hate seeing s confident women" and that I have corset pictures. I hold her that it wasn't the same and that I am wearing a skirt and if she thinks corset and skirt photos are the same as skimpy bra and panties she doesn't understand the goth scene fashion wise. I look at her profile she is a stipper and has an OF and this is all she posts about. then I get ganged up on by her stipper OF friend and they essentially loon at my photos to trash me. (I told the girl she looked good but this wasn't the place and it makes the scene look like this is what goth women are about) she tried to shame my photos and say I am "too ugly now" to take my own and that is why I am "shaming" her and how she got 10 new subscribers because I gave her post more attention. I just wanted to call her out as politely as I could so admins would remove her photo from the 30 40 50+ goths group. instead they allowed these women to harrass and call me names and bully me and no one said anything. It felt like you had a women half naked posting her body in a goth page perpetrating a fetish stereotype that goth women are trying not to be a part if and I am made the asshole for calling her out and saying this shouldn't be posted. IDK what to think anymore. I don't care if someone does OF, but to post the closest you can get to naked without being removed to get your image in a goth group to find clients or act more legitimately goth I have an issue with… but I felt like I was the only one and it was all just men complementing her body. only 1 person said "what does this have to do with goth?" and they were attacked in the comments too. I just hope I have people who understand so I don't feel like I am going crazy for speaking out against the fetishism of the goth scene and people exploiting it.

I’ve been into the scene for quite some time but the closest thing I got to a goth scene is two hours away, and I unfortunately can’t do the travel to join in events. It’s time related with work. I mostly work mornings so I have to sleep at night but sometimes I work closing and I don’t feel like doing much after my shift, especially driving a four hour round trip in a night.

Underground events don’t really happen where I live and the closest thing I have to a goth night is a emo night. The only goth friends I have are all online in different states and countries. I guess I’m just having a lot of FOMO and jealousy from people who live near ‘big’ goth scenes.

For goths that are 40 or above, have you ever been dissed by someone, whether they were a goth or a non-goth, about you still being in the scene at your age?

I ask this as a 20 something babybat with bad skin, who is already self-conscious about whether or not I'm pulling it off or not.

Do you ever get self-conscious about it?

Baby bat in need of help. So I’m going to visit my parents in Virginia. They live in the Alexandria/DC area. Anyone know any fun or cool spots in the that area? I’m talking like sightseeing, cool shops, events in the next few months, clubs, general stuff like that.

Hi! Please tell me if I should post this in r/korea instead and I'll delete this post right away 🙂
I was wondering if anyone knew of goth clubs (or clubs that play goth music) in Korea, Seoul in particular. And if anyone went to any of those places, I would really appreciate if you could tell me your experience. Thank you!

i really want to make some goth friends but i don’t know where to look for them as im only 17 (so cant go to goth clubs). does anyone have any advice?

I got into the Goth scene in the mid-2000s, and my first exposure came in the form of artists on the Dancing Ferret label – The Cruxshadows, Ego Likeness, ThouShaltNot, and The Last Dance were the sacred standbys of my peer group who were first discovering the Dark Arts, so to speak. The Where's Neil When You Need Him? tribute album is perhaps the most representative sample of the scene and era.

I notice however that this period and this section of the Goth music kingdom is ignored by Goth historians: Lol Tolhurst ignores it in his recent Goth: A History, jumping between '90s Depeche Mode and 2010s-2020s post-punk revival.

Goth Music: From Sound to Subculture by Elferen and Weinstock mostly focuses on Industrial and Death Rock, and largely acts under the assumption that this era and corner of the Goth scene never existed.

Would it be inaccurate to say that these artists, neglected by historians of Goth music/subculture, constitute the Goth scene's lost years?

I'm in my 20's, still very much a babybat, and trying to learn about the history and scene today.

For the Goths who are now parents, how did that life event change or affect you? I guess if I am being honest, I'm more primarily interested in the perspective of 90's Goths, but if you're not, please still do share.

If you're an adult, but don't have kids or never plan to have kids, are you able to share what it's been like to see if your siblings, friends, and other people around your age having kids?

I feel particularly inspired by people who continue the lifestyle in parenthood, and share their connections to scenes. I once met a woman who was running a theater store, and she actually told me she used to be a Goth girl, and would join Goth clubs or Industrial clubs in Los Angeles. But now that she's a parent, she no longer visits the clubs or sports the iconic wardrobe.

I live in Adams County and I feel like I'm the only goth person I ever see in this area lol. I know there's a decently sized scene in Philly, but there's multiple reasons why I can't really go there unless someone goes with me. (protective parents and no car yayyyy)

Hihi I semi-recently moved to Montreal and I’ve been to a few goth (particularly 80’s throwback events) but I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations of events or clubs or bars :))